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Written by Angela Wolf, GWSB MBA alumna 2010. This is Part 2 of the post. Continued from Get the Most from Part-time MBA in 16 Months.

Now down to what’s important… what did I get out of the program. One of the biggest lessons from the program is that and MBA doesn’t necessarily teach you what to think, it teaches you HOW to think. I loved most of my classes (except Finance, wow), but what I really learned from the courses was how to take a problem, analyze it quickly and comprehensively, and create a creative and effective plan to solve it.I was sick of “cases” by the time I finished, but I can appreciate now how all the case studies improved my problem-solving skills. I use those skills and lessons every day.

I was also surrounded by very intelligent and ambitious people who knew what was going on in the world (esp in politics, a benefit of going to school two blocks from the White House). Many of them made incredibly insightful comments and asked excellent questions in class, which pushed me to better understand how the cases we were studying fit into the real world of politics, business, and the craziness that is real life. I still remember some of those questions and try to apply them to problems I face at work and in life these days.

One of the other things I loved about GW especially was the diversity of the student body. Not only were there people from many other countries, but I was able to interact with people with jobs I never thought I’d encounter at business school. Many people worked on the hill or for government agencies; there were also military veterans, tv producers, physicians, and of course a slew of consultants.

I loved hearing peoples’ stories and learning about their backgrounds. And one thing we all had in common– the bond that kept us emphetic towards one another throughout each class and each group project– was that we all wanted to be there so badly that we dragged ourselves to evening classes after long, hard days at work. We knew there were several more hours of thinking and studying ahead, but we were determined to be there and get our business degree even while holding a full-time job. That’s what I loved about my part-time MBAers. They had so much weight on their shoulders by going to work and school at the same time, but they were dead set on making it happen.

I could write much more about my experience as a part-time GW MBA student, but instead I’ll wrap up with a few suggestions for anyone considering a part-time MBA program at GW or at any school for that matter.

1. Know your priorities. Is it program reputation, scholarships, flexibility, international travel opportunities, social opportunities? Pick the top one or two, and as you research programs, make sure your application choices support those priorities.

2. Set clear expectations before beginning. Yes, you’ll have to sacrifice a lot of your social life, and you’ll want to set that expectation with significant others, friends and family as well. Yes, you’ll have late nights with little sleep and have to go to work in the morning. Be sure you understand WHY you want an MBA before you begin, and keep that in mind during the rough times.

3. Take time to enjoy yourself. At orientation, a few of the alumni told us they actually had to schedule social time into their week. I thought they were crazy. Couldn’t they grab dinner on a Friday night and not feel bad about it? In fact, depending on your work situation and your courseload, you will probably have to put social time on your calendar. It’s not as easy to get out and have fun as one might think, especially when you have three papers, two tests, and a group project due next week. But it’s critical that you DO put it on your calendar or else you’ll burn out after a while, and that’s no good for you, your groupmates, or the ROI you want to receive on your investment.

4. Take advantage of the study abroad programs and the other ways to spice up the program. I loved how easy GW made the study abroad process. I never thought I’d go to Dubai, but I was able not only to go but to offer marketing advice to some billion dollar corporations during an international marketing residency. Such a cool experience. Don’t let your program end without trying at least one cool experience you wouldn’t have had the opportunity to try if you weren’t getting your MBA.

5. Finally, be proactive in making connections with your MBA peers. Networking is such a huge part of the MBA process and a major piece of the ROI you’ll receive.  Even as a sales rep, I don’t love networking; I’m not gonna lie. But I did make a commitment to myself to reach out and meet new people while I was there and not get too isolated in my studies. By doing so, I met some of the coolest, smartest, and most diverse people I’ve ever met or ever thought I’d meet. I went to Saudi Arabia with one a year ago, and I’m going to Columbia next month with another (both locals of those countries).

MBA was a cool experience that taught me a lot and certainly gave me the boost on my resume that helped me move to the next level in my career (Marketing & Business Development Manager), but the relationships I made throughout the program are what made the program far exceed my expectations. The ROI was absolutely worth the investment, and I’d do it over (the same way) in a heartbeat.

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Written by Angela Wolf, GWSB MBA alumna 2010

I had the pleasure of taking several GW MBA classes with Vitali throughout 2009 and 2010. And I was happy to see him in a lounge in the MBA building between classes one day in December 2010, completely out of the blue. I hadn’t seen him for a while, and he asked how things are going and how much longer I had before graduating.

Graduation was top of mind at the time because I had a week left and only a couple more finals standing in my way. When I told him about my week countdown, he was very surprised, I could tell. Then I explained how I did it. If you’re wondering, yes, I am the girl he spoke to in the December 2010 post “Part-time MBA – Turbocharged!”  The following is the story of how I chose GW’s part-time MBA program and how (and why) I did it in 16 months.

I’d known for about 5 years before starting at GW that I wanted to get my MBA. In fact, I took the GMAT 3 years before applying. It was always one of those things I wanted to do but never pushed myself to actually start the application process.

The year I decided to apply was possibly the worst year I could have chosen- the year after the economic collapse when there were ten times as many unemployed candidates applying for MBAs. Back then it was very frustrating, but looking back I know it all happened the way it did for a reason.

I had been living in DC for almost 4 years, and I was more than ready to move. I was burnt out at work and not happy in the dating department (if you know DC, you know that’s not uncommon for a single 20-something female). All I wanted to do was quit my job, move to a different city, and get a full-time MBA at the top-tier school. But things didn’t line up the way I’d always planned, and I’m actually happy they didn’t.

At the time my sister was already a year into her part-time term at Kellogg, and half of her classmates had lost their jobs. I realized I should hold on to mine as long as possible. So, part-time programs became my focus, and I knew I had to make it quick if I was going to do it with a job I wasn’t happy with and a city I wanted to leave.

Given my situation, I had two choices, George Washington and Georgetown. The reason I chose GW over G-town was two-fold. For starters, Georgetown didn’t give merit scholarships to part-timers. 1 point for GW. Georgetown also had a rigid 3-year program with very little flexibility, whereas GW had options for taking international residencies worth 9 credits, online courses, doubling up on courseloads if you wanted, etc. My goal was to finish in 2 years (all I thought I could handle at my job), and Georgetown couldn’t offer that. Point 2 for GW, and that’s the game.

Now don’t get me wrong, I had several good friends and a roommate who went to Georgetown and loved it. It’s a great program; it just didn’t fit my biggest need: flexibility. I had also heard some great things about the professors at GW, which turned out to be true in most cases. In the end, I may not have gotten the very best school name on my diploma (although I am very proud to have gone to GW), but I am 100% happy with the education I received and the opportunities afforded to me throughout my time at GW.

I started the program expecting to maintain a rigid focus to study as much as possible and finish quickly. I didn’t expect to have much of a social life, but I was happy to find some very cool classmates that enjoyed forming study groups and going out after class. In the end, while I had to sacrifice a lot of my social life, I still had a great time with GW and non-GW friends, which is a balance I learned is critical to maintain if you want to keep your sanity throughout the program.

I also had a really good advisor who helped me figure out what courses I needed to take to finish in 24 months. And if you’re wondering, one of reasons I was able to finish in such a short time was the job I had at the time.

At the time, I sold medical equipment to physicians, hospitals, and long-term care facilities. Although I drove throughout a five-state radius throughout the day, I took time to read chapters and complete assignments between calls. I soon learned how to organize my days to be efficient in selling and offer at least an hour or two for studying. I also worked from home sometimes on Fridays, which really gave me a lot of flexibility. Looking back, if I would have had the office job I have today (where I am tied to a desk 10-18 hours a day and don’t even have time to go to lunch), I would never have been able to finish in two years.

One of the things I knew I wanted to do while at GW was to take advantage of at least one of the really cool international residencies that I’d heard about during my pre-application research.

Just two months into my time at GW, I applied for an international marketing residency in Dubai during the two weeks between the fall and spring ”semesters.” Because I was a marketing undergrad and had worked in marketing off and on during the 6 years since college, I was able to test out of the marketing pre-req’s for the international marketing residency. That meant I could earn 6 credits between the first and second semesters at GW, and by the end of spring 2010, I was more than halfway done with my course load.

I took a TON of classes in the summer, and I mean a ton. I think it was something like 12 or 15 credits. I was constantly stressed, but I did manage to get out a couple times a week. I also took a Chile/Argentina international residency in the fall of 2010, which helped accelerate my program faster than I’d expected and allowed me to graduate in December 2010 after only 16 months. That’s how I did it.

Speed is certainly not the most important goal of an MBA program, but it was one of my priorities given the situation I was in. Did I sacrifice any of my MBA experience by cutting it short? Yes, I probably did. But, I still managed to meet a lot of incredible people who helped me really enjoy DC during my last year and half, and I still keep in touch with most of them today even though I now live in Chicago.

Continued:- Part-time MBA in 16 Months – 5 Lessons Learned.

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Written by Brian Fitzgerald, VP of Digital Strategy at O’Rourke Hospitality

In late 2007, early 2008 I started to prepare to go back to school and get my MBA in the Washington DC area. I researched the various schools, weighed my pros and cons and took the GMAT. When all was said and done I was deciding between the part-time program at Maryland’s Robert H. Smith School of Business and The George Washington University School of Business. I ultimately chose George Washington partly because, at the time, it was less credit hours (and therefore less expensive) but more importantly I felt that it was more flexible and less rigid than the cohort approach at Maryland. In September of 2008 I began my journey.

When I started at GWU I was working for a small Internet marketing agency in Chevy Chase, MD. The two owners of the company both had their MBAs and so I had some assumptions about the value they might place on an individual that also had an MBA, but prior to my beginning there was never any discussion or direct evidence that it would lead to more responsibilities, salary, etc. In February of 2010, about 18 months into the MBA program, I got a promotion at work to take on additional responsibilities. I’d like to say this promotion was related to my MBA studies, but it wasn’t, it was because I proactively asked for the additional responsibilities, hounded the owners about it and they somewhat begrudgingly gave it to me. Yes, it was a strange situation but I was happy to have more responsibilities.

Right around this same time our small company had been acquired by a much larger, publically traded company. Soon the two owners were out and a new President from the parent company was in charge of the day-to-day operations. For about a year I had the opportunity to work closely with the new President and he was very open to hearing about my work experiences and MBA studies. I could tell that he liked that I was taking the initiative to go to school part-time and I could tell that he saw value in an MBA.

After that first year with the new President he promoted me to be part of the 6 member executive team, taking on a larger department of people and responsible for helping creating the strategy for the company. This promotion happened right around May of 2011, right when I was finishing my MBA program. I have since left that company in DC and moved back to my hometown of Boston where I’m working for a small marketing agency called O’Rourke Hospitality Marketing. My job is working directly with the two owners to grow a new business unit from the ground up.

All in all I completed my part-time MBA in under three years, secured a 3.7 GPA, all while working 50+ hours a week. As I look back on it those were actually some pretty miserable years. I say that partially joking, but partially serious. I was very stressed, relatively unhealthy and didn’t have time for many of the things I would typically enjoy. However, I’m glad that I did it and think that I proved a lot to myself in the process.

For what it’s worth, because I know sometimes people ask about the ROI of investing in an MBA, between when I started the MBA in September of 2008 and now (January 2012) my base salary has increased 58%. I really couldn’t say if that is average or above/below average, but I’m very happy with it.

Going into my decision to get my MBA I never really had expectations for the short-term, it was always more of a long-term strategy for later on in my career. I knew that it was something that I would probably need later to progress but something that I needed to do before my wife and I started to have a family. However, in retrospect I think it did help me get promoted at my job in DC and I think it positioned me very well for the job and responsibilities that I have now.

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This post is just a brief introduction to the article I am preparing for publishing tomorrow. I am planning to have stories from the GWSB MBA alumni published on this site. Basically, I am interested to hear from them about:

  • why they decided to pursue MBA in the first place, why part-time, why GWSB
  • their overall experience with the part-time MBA program at George Washington University School of Business
  • what value they were able to extract from the program (if any)
  • how/whether the program helped them in their post-MBA career, or other goals they had set for themselves
  • whether the program met their expectations
  • whether they got the expected ROI for their MBA degree
  • any positive highlights
  • any grievances they might have
  • any advice they could give to current and prospective MBA students

These are just general guidelines I will request them to consider in order to help them formulate their posts, not a rigid format. So far I reached out to one of my classmates, Brian Fitzgerald, with whom I had one class together – Consultative Processes – in Fall 2010 term. We also worked with him on a group project in that class. Brian has graciously agreed to write about his experience and tomorrow you will have a chance to read the first guest post on this blog. Hopefully, I will be able to invite more of my classmates to participate in this new project at my blog, and Brian’s post will be the first in the series of alumni stories. I am actually also going to ask some of the students from the full-time MBA, called Global MBA at GWSB, and see if any of them would be interested to share their stories. I hope these stories will be interesting not only for me, but for all readers of my blog who are considering the MBA degree in general, and part-time MBA option in particular, whether it is in GWU School of Business or any other Business School.

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Negotiation Simulation Role Playing – More Play, Less Role

November 20, 2011

This week in my part-time MBA class on Conflict Management and Negotiations we had an in-class presentations for the group negotiation simulation based on Ridgecrest School Dispute case. Essentially, the case is based on the dispute between the Board of Education and the Teachers Association (the teachers union) about the ways of closing the budget [...]

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Macroeconomics – Funny Joke of the Day

November 18, 2011

Just wanted to add another fun video to keep your interest in economics up and demonstrate that macroeconomics is not all that boring as the economists try to make it look to us – lay -men and -women. // I first saw this video about a year ago when I was taking my Financial Management [...]

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Macroeconomics Fun – Notes From the Classroom

November 12, 2011

Macroeconomics is one of the core classes I am taking right now – a little bit later in my MBA studies. The first part of Economics – Microeconomics – I took in my very first module when I just started my whole part-time MBA program journey back in fall 2009. // As everything with economics, [...]

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Consulting Club Networking Social at GWU

November 6, 2011

Just a couple days ago I was complaining about the lack of time and opportunities for part-time MBA students to network within the context of the business school. Apparently, having pumped myself up with discontent about this situation, I subconsciously was looking for opportunities to do something about it . // Over a week ago [...]

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Social Networking for Part-time MBA Students

November 3, 2011

This past weekend I had a negotiation simulation with my classmate in Conflict Management and Negotiations class. As I mentioned in the past, this class requires some of the negotiations to be held out of the class, so we had a scheduled appointment on campus on Sunday. We had allocated an hour for the whole [...]

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All-American Darling Netflix Fallout

October 24, 2011

Today I was looking at my business cases portfolio that I have prepared in the course of my part-time MBA studies at GWU School of Business and I noticed that I have not published any cases from my Marketing classes yet. So I found one of the sections I prepared for a group project on [...]

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Fall Mid-Term Breather at GWSB

October 21, 2011

On Wednesday I got done with the first module of the Fall term at GWSB part-time MBA program . In the last week I was scraping up to finalize two group project papers, two final in-class group presentations and a final exam  administered online. It was very taxing period, to say the least. I spent [...]

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Part-time MBA Blog – Two Year Anniversary

October 15, 2011

Another milestone in my blogging experience. Don’t have too much time to reflect on this now, but if you are interested in some background information on how this blog came to be, you can read the post I had a year ago on One Year Anniversary of this blog. // I would still like to [...]

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Risk Is Not a Dirty Word in Project Management

October 6, 2011

This first module of the Fall term at GWU School of business I am taking class on Risk Management for Projects. I am taking this class as a follow up to the one I took last Spring term – Introduction to Project Management. // One thing I was surprised to learn in the Risk Management [...]

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Competing on Analytics vs Intuitive Courage

September 29, 2011

I mentioned in an earlier post that I am taking a “Database and Web Analytics” elective class this first module of the fall term at GWSB MBA program. The required reading for this class is Competing on Analytics: The New Science of Winning – not exactly a textbook, but rather – a high view of [...]

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Happy New MBA Year!

August 29, 2011

Today is the first day of my last year of part-time MBA program at GW School of Business (GWSB). Summer break, vacation are all history, and I did not even manage to put a short report on my Cancun vacation ;-( . Now it’s not likely I will have time for that. But before I [...]

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Soda Tax and Public Policy – MBA Perspective

July 31, 2011

A year ago in summer term 2010 at George Washington University School of Business I took a class on Business and Public Policy. It was an interesting exercise and I learned a lot about the tensions between the public interests and private corporate agendas, lobbying, and public relations. I have published earlier two of the individual cases I [...]

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Pre-MBA Reading List for Poets

July 27, 2011

// Back in May I promised to have a post on summer reading list for pre-MBA admitted applicants. There are a number of lists in print and especially on the internet for pre-MBA or mid-school summer reading. I have perused some of them and found them quite helpful. I often ask people to recommend books [...]

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Hooray MBA – Summer Break!

June 26, 2011

It has been a long time since my last post, but it could have been expected that I would hardly have much time to attend to the blog. Two classes, six weeks, group cases and projects = no slack time. But it is all over now. I have been officially on a summer break from [...]

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Drop Class or Drop Dead at GWU Part-time MBA

June 5, 2011

On May 16 I started my classes in Summer Term at GW School of Business. There was some hiccup at the beginning though. I originally signed up for three classes: two from the core MBA curriculum, 1.5 credits each; and one elective from the Department of Information Systems Technology Management- three credits. I was trying to [...]

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Project Management – Sharks Against the Naive

May 14, 2011

Introduction to Project Management was a full-term 3-credit class, therefore we combed through a lot of material and got exposed to a lot of concepts. So I would probably be returning to this course quite a bit to share little reflections on the subject here and there. // There were quite a few observations about Project [...]

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Ellen Moore in Korea – Business Case Analysis of Cultural Differences

May 9, 2011

In my Consultative Processes class that I took in Fall Term of my second year part-time MBA at GWU we had a case of Ellen Moore(A): Living and Working in Korea. I learned a few interesting things about the country’s culture - something that I wouldn’t ever guessed on my own. I have quite a few acquaintances [...]

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2-nd Year MBA Spring Term is Over

May 5, 2011

On Monday I had my final exam in Business Law and Communications.  My final presentation in Introduction to Project Management class took place two weeks ago. With that I am done with my classes in GW part-time MBA Spring Term. I feel free and relieved … for the next two weeks. Then my two classes for Summer [...]

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Facebook Face Off at Job Interview

May 2, 2011

This Spring term I had another core class in my part-time MBA program – Organizations and Leadership. This course is also commonly known in other MBA programs as Organizational Behavior. The course was rather interesting, and I will hopefully write more about it at a later time. On a side note about the topic of [...]

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Intro to Project Management – Final Presentation

April 28, 2011

Last  Thursday we had final group presentations in class for the Introduction to Project Management course. This presentation was a part of the final assignment: research and analysis of the management of an actual project. The other part of an assignment was to prepare a 20-25 pages analytical research of that same actual project. // [...]

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Introduction to Project Management – MBA elective

April 26, 2011

My posts for the nearest future will be recollections from the end of the Fall term and the Spring term in somewhat random order, as I will try to fill some of the gaps since the end of my regular blogging at the end of last year. I will try to reflect on some more interesting highlights [...]

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Part-time MBA on a Full-time Leave of Absence

April 12, 2011

Leave of absence from the blog, that is. It has been over four months now since my last update on the blog . Even my summer break last year did not take me away from posting on my site for that long. // There has been a lot going on, so I kind of slipped back [...]

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Fall Term 2010 at GW MBA Near End

December 9, 2010

There are so many things I would like to share in the blog with my reflections on the winding down Fall Term in part-time MBA program at GW. But the term is not over yet. Yesterday I had my final class in Consultative Processes. This is a relief, since I am done with the class. Our [...]

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Part-time MBA – Turbocharged!

December 3, 2010

This week I ran into one of my classmates in the study area before the class. I have not seen her around since the summer term, so we chatted a bit to catch up on what’s going on in our MBA studies. I remembered that we started the program at GW at the same time [...]

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Swamped with MBA Assignments

November 9, 2010

Update 5/7/2011. I have published a business case analysis for Ellen Moore (A): Living and Working in Korea. This week is going to be really brutal. I will have to pay for a little relaxation I had over the past weekend. I had some family and friends time and did not have enough time to [...]

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Blink, the Power of Priming and Financial Markets Final Grade

October 31, 2010

As the second module started this week, I had my class in Financial Management, which is the continuation of the Financial Markets class I had in the first fall Module at GW MBA. The same professor is teaching this class as the previous one, so we were given our final exam papers back to review. [...]

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Marketing Decisions – Second Module Kickoff at GW MBA

October 24, 2010

As I mentioned in my previous post, I had an early start for my Fall Module II at GW part-time MBA program this week. Professor wanted to review the major points of the previous course – Nature of Markets, as it is the foundation for the upcoming class. The second major point of an early start was give [...]

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First Module GW Part-time MBA – Finals Week

October 20, 2010

This week was the end of the first Fall module in GW MBA program. I had my final in Financial Markets class on Tuesday. Of the ten questions, there was one (on spot rates, forward rate) which I had to retreat to Chinese approach, i.e “write everything that crosses your mind, and let professor choose [...]

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Consulting Proposal Presentation: Kacey Fine Furniture

October 18, 2010
Kacey Fine Furniture

Updated September 24, 2011. I placed an introduction and background & understanding sections of the Consulting Proposal Letter to Kacey Fine Furniture in the Business School Cases of this blog. Last Wednesday we had consulting proposal presentation in our Consultative Processes class. All groups, total of five, were presenting a proposal for consulting engagement on [...]

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Part-time MBA Blog – One Year Anniversary

October 15, 2010

Yes, you read it right. It was one year ago exactly when I embarked on this journey of keeping the record of my progress in part-time MBA program at George Washington University in Washington, DC. The year was eventful both in my business school studies and on the blog itself. Now I can look back and [...]

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Case Study of SG Cowen: New Recruits – Business Case Studies Update

October 12, 2010

// Just a short note on the update I made to Business School Cases section of my blog. It seems with the school year moving forward at full speed my blog has been getting more visits from inquiries related to business case studies. Judging by the number of hits from those inquiries I gather that [...]

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